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After a day of demanding classes at Berklee College of Music, Pete Huttlinger would grab a friend, rush down to the Harvard Square subway and spend the afternoon playing for tips. The two always came back with their pockets filled. For Pete, this routine symbolized what has become his abiding outlook towards music – perfect your art, but play to the crowd.
As a sideman, Pete has performed with artists such as John Denver, SheDaisy and LeAnn Rimes. He has performed in venues such as the Hollywood Bowl, London’s Royal Albert Hall, Caesar’s Palace, The Tonight Show and Stadiums around the world. As a studio musician, Pete has performed on numerous Grammy winning and Grammy nominated recordings. He has been nominated for an Emmy for music he both composed and performed for a PBS special, and wrote the theme for ESPN’s Fly-Fishing America. Pete has been a featured artist with the Houston and San Diego symphonies as well as the Nashville Chamber Orchestra. In 2000, he won the title of National Fingerstyle Champion at the prestigious Walnut Valley Festival.
Tell me about your new recording.
It’s titled The Santa Rita Connection. I’m very
proud of it. I think it may be my best playing to date. I
wrote most of the material and it’s all solo but one.
I’m very pleased with the quality I’m getting
in my studio. I spent several months investigating sounds
and microphones. I know now that I’ve got a great studio.
What
gear do you have?
It’s your basic Pro Tools studio but I have some great
gear on the front end – I have two vintage Neumann KM84
microphones that I run through a UA2610 pre-amp. The 84s bring
out every warm tone of the guitar. I used to use the 184s
but the tone is drastically different.
How
did you discover the KM84?
I’ve been involved in studio work for several years
and I’ve learned a lot just asking the engineers questions
about gear. It’s generally known how great this microphone
is. They’re hard to find, they haven’t been made
for years and people really covet them. I know several players
who take them to their sessions. I found mine through a guy
named Bill Bradley at the Mic Shop in Nashville. I’d
called him to repair my Neumann 184s and he said. “It
wouldn’t be worth the cost of repair, you need a pair
of the KM84s and I have a set.” I was down there in
thirty minutes!
It
makes you wonder why they don’t make them anymore –
whatever the cost may be, if it’s the best, the professional
will pay for it.
I think a lot of studios and engineers have B grade gear and
just don’t know it. We tend to buy what someone with
more experience tells us and many times they just haven’t
had exposure to what’s out there. All the companies
make gear that looks killer but most people don’t get
the chance to play on a lot of stuff before they buy. I’ve
been fortunate enough to have played on some great gear and
every time I go into the studio I ask the engineer, “What
mic, what mic-pre?”
I
know you engineered your new recording. How did you manage
that as well as playing?
Well as I said, I use Pro Tools Digi 002 system. Pro Tools
is computer-based software that comes with a mixer. I run
a long firewire cable to the mixer and have it in the booth
with me. It’s fully functional, so I can start, stop,
and rewind from the board in the booth. It’s a little
tricky at first but after a couple of weeks, it’s really
not difficult.
Let’s
talk about some of the tunes on the new project.
Well the title cut, “The Santa Rita Connection,”
is one I open all my shows with. It’s a showstopper
– once you’ve played that you can play something
slow and it’s ok. [Laughter] When I started writing
it, I had this little “chicken picking” thing
that eventually evolved, but it took a year. I wrote a couple
of tunes for friends; one titled “Darcy’s Guitar,”
for Darcy Cotten who co-owns Cotten music with Kim Sherman.
I played it for Kim one day and she said, “I want a
tune but I want mine in a minor key.” I came up with
a Celtic thing that’s really two jigs put together –
you guessed it, it’s called “Kim Sherman’s
Jigs.”
I have a fun arrangement of “I’ve Got Rhythm.” It’s such a great chord progression – you know Gershwin set the world on fire with that progression, no telling how many tunes are based on those changes. I’m a big fan of Merle Travis and I have a section that is very much based on his style. The intro and the section before the key change is sort of a three against four feel. I thought, “Since the title is, ‘I Got Rhythm,’ why not mess with the rhythm?” I used the bridge as the intro with three against four. I had to write it out to get it in my head. [Laughter]
I
really enjoyed how you mixed your jazz influence with the
Merle Travis style in “I Got Rhythm.” Lenny Breau
used to mix styles a lot. It’s a real attention getter.
Thanks, you know that extended ending I ripped right out of
the Joe Pass book. I did some transcriptions years ago where
he kept the top note the same as he changed the chord below
by descending in half steps. I thought, “How far can
I go?” You know you can only go so far before it starts
sounding corny. I actually got it to work descending chromatically
all but the first interval almost all the way down the chromatic
scale. I think the two-beat feel makes it a little more palatable
for the average listener than if I had done it in a jazzier
swing feel. One of the great things about Chet was that he
put this nice two-beat feel to these great songs with great
chord changes and made them very listenable for lots of people.
Steve
Wonder’s “Superstition” is a cool arrangement.
I was on a gig one night when a guy yelled out, “Superstition!”
I explained why it couldn’t be played on the guitar:
“It’s too hard to keep the bass line, horn line
and melody going.” When I left the gig a friend said,
“Are you going to arrange it?” I said, “Oh
Yeah!” [Laughter]
You’re
known for arranging pop tunes such as “Superstition”
and “Josie.” They’re band tracks that have
complex parts that most of the time are hooks that have to
be part of the arrangement but not necessarily easy or seemingly
possible. How do you approach arranging something like that?
I don’t look for tunes but I try to keep an open mind
and let the tune reveal itself to me. I love a good bass line
and of course I love a great melody and harmony but a groove
is essential. Several people have asked me to arrange another
Steely Dan tune but I haven’t found one that has hit
me the way “Josie” did. Maybe it’s not the
right time or I haven’t discovered the tune. Tunes like
the Jackson Five’s “I Want You Back” are
tunes from my childhood. It has this great descending bass
line through it that’s just too cool not to try! It’s
actually the hardest thing I play. The thumb work is very
difficult. When I recorded it on my Naked Pop CD I was terrified.
I practiced it a lot and to my surprise got it on the first
take!
I
believe you have a slightly different take on solo playing
because of your experience in the studio and playing with
bands. You’ve very aware of the pulse and feel of the
music. Many musicians, not just guitarists, who only play
solo are notorious for their lack of rhythm and ability to
keep an even pulse when needed.
I think if you’re a soloist and you’re playing
restaurant gigs or weddings, that’s fine because they’re
not paying close attention, but if you’re playing concerts
you can lose the audience if you have a tendency to rush or
drag. They don’t know why, but if they can’t clap
their hands in time or sway in their seat, it can get confusing.
Lots of solo players have no idea about that, no clue. A metronome
or a drum machine can be your best friend.
Some
people are under the impression that once they reach a certain
level they can quit using the metronome, yet the best musicians
I know use one often. Do you have any tips for working with
a metronome?
It’s important to remember there is a huge difference
between playing with a metronome and playing with your metronome
on. I see people all the time who say, “I practice with
my metronome all the time,” and their time is out to
lunch! They’re not stopping and saying, “You know
what, for four minutes straight I’m going to strum a
G chord at 80 beats per minute and totally internalize it.”
It’s painful, it’s boring, but you’ll be
saying, “You know, I’m starting to feel it.”
I have no natural rhythm but I’ve talked to a lot of
drummers and guitar players who have told me how to use a
metronome. They’d say, “Play a slow country shuffle.”
A slow country shuffle is one of the hardest rhythms to keep
because of the subdivision of the beat with the triplet feel.
It’s important to remember that a metronome is not just
for building speed; it’s also for internalizing the
time. You have to be aware of the metronome. Ask yourself,
“Am I behind the beat? Am I ahead of the beat?”
Most people will be ahead of the beat. You have to be brutality
honest with yourself.
Slow
tempos seem to be the toughest for consistent placement of
the beat.
Yeah, I think people tend to rush because they’re afraid
of the space.
I played one night with Bill Mize and as you know I like to play hot stuff so I played my tune “Brown Bomber” – the crowd loved it. I was feeling pretty good about myself, then Bill plays a slow Cherokee Indian prayer song and the crowd came to their feet! Here I was trying to show off chops and he got them with great musicality. Look, I get goose bumps just thinking about it! He wasn’t afraid of the space. You can really pull an audience in with space. I learned a big lesson.
You’re
a very experienced performer – I’ve been in you
audience and I’ve also had the pleasure of playing a
show with you. You always seem in control and never nervous.
On occasion I get the jitters but when I do I close my eyes
and say, “Pete, you’re in your living room.”
I don’t get nervous in my living room. [Laughter] I
also feel a responsibility to the audience, they paid good
money and deserve a good performance, and it’s not about
me. I tell stories and cut-up quite a bit. I want them to
leave feeling good about the whole experience. To tell you
the truth, when I see solo guitarists that just sit and play
I get bored. I want more from that person and the audience
deserves it.
Tell
me about your Homespun DVDs.
I currently have four volumes. I have two volumes on the music
of John Denver; one on the art of practicing that helps make
better use of your time, it’s filled with ideas; and
I have another volume titled Solo Arrangements For Acoustic
Guitar. I recently filmed two new volumes – a third
volume of John Denver material and another with the working
title, Essential Exercises For Fingerstyle Guitar.
I
understand you’re now renting your studio out as well
as yourself as a producer.
Yes, I’m giving the artist two days of recording an
a third day of editing and mixing. I think it’s a unique
opportunity for guitarists to record in a great little studio,
in a nice surrounding without the pressures of a studio where
you’re watching the clock. The service also includes
my time as engineer as well as producer. Anyone interested
can read detailed information about the studio and contact
me at www.petehuttlinger.com.
Though
you’ve dedicated years to your music, I know you’re
like me – a new chord voicing or a new arrangement can
turn us into a six-year old at Christmas.
For me music wasn’t something I wanted to do, it was
something I wanted to discover. The joy music brings me is
definitely what gets me through life.